Ep 178 Mastering Author Newsletters

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Today we’re talking about Author Newsletters. Why? Because I still have seasoned authors ask me why I feel so strongly that they need one. I break down why I think you should have one and go over the items you need from the beginning to have a successful author newsletter.

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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Pencils & Lipstick. I am Kat Caldwell, and this is Episode 178 of the podcast. And today, we do not have an interview, but we will be back next week with a guest. Today, we are going to talk about a couple of different things going on in the indie world. And we’re going to talk about author newsletters. So before we get into that, I want to remind you as always, that it helps us if you share out the podcast, if you subscribe on the app so that you are listening to, if you could review. I know on iTunes, we’re six or maybe eight months out from the last review we have. I know reviews are a bit of a pain, but they definitely help the podcast. So if you are willing to do that, even giving some stars, whatever you think of it, but sharing it out with other people. We have some wonderful guests who know a lot about the publishing world and the writing world, and I hope that they’re bringing you some really good content that you can apply to your writing and to your marketing and to your publishing and all that.

Last week we had Jennie Nash on and she was talking about book coaching and why you might want a coach and why you might want to become a coach. So if you haven’t checked out that episode, go and do that. Author Accelerator is still running until the end of the month. There are spring sales where you always get these tons of bonuses if you sign up to become a book coach. And I can’t say enough about the community. The links will be in the show notes below. And if you want to hear more from Jennie Nash, the founder of Author Accelerator, go to Episode 177, and you can listen to her talk all about it and listen to me gush all about it, basically.

So if you guys don’t know, Kobo has rolled out their subscription book service in the states now. I believe it’s the states and the UK, that was next in line. They already had it in the Netherlands, and I think they had it in Canada as well. So the subscription based service is like Kindle Unlimited, in which you pay per month to get access to all the books in there. But the difference is that they aren’t exclusive. So if you don’t know if an author has their book within KU, so you can get it with your subscription, they are limited to only having their book with Amazon. They cannot have their eBook with anybody else. And that’s what we differentiate between wide and KU, because KU is the only subscription service in which an author has to limit the sale of their book only to Amazon. So they can have it in KU, so anybody with the subscription to Kindle Unlimited can access that book. And they can sell the eBook on Amazon as well to anybody who doesn’t own the subscription service, and they can have their paperback wide if they want to. With their eBook, they cannot have anywhere, they cannot even really, they shouldn’t be giving it away themselves. I’m sure there are others out there that skirt the rules, but if Amazon finds out, you can get a big old slap on your wrist. So Kobo is different in that they are not limiting authors to be exclusively to Kobo. And that’s just good business sense because I believe they have less than half of the titles that Amazon has. Amazon almost has so many books out there. Just FYI to readers, I loved Kindle Unlimited, especially while I was living in Europe. It gave me access to a lot of books. I have cut down on all my subscriptions, so I don’t have that anymore. But anytime that you’re buying a book from, even if it’s Kobo, Amazon, you don’t actually own the book. What you’re doing is paying to rent the book, right? And especially your subscription service. And a lot of authors make most of their money from KU. This is typically romance writers, YA writers, fantasy writers, people whose fan base consumes a lot of books in a short amount of time. So a lot of romance readers will read books just all day long. So they are going to make most of their money there. And that’s why a lot of them argue against going wide. For the rest of you, you need to decide for yourself where your audience is. I personally am wide. I sometimes put my books into KU every once in a while just to see what they will do. But I don’t write to market and I don’t write fast, consumable books. I think an Audience with a King is probably my quickest read, and it’s not a series. It helps if it’s a series. So yeah, I’ve put them into KU every once in a while because you can put them in for 90 days. You’re not stuck in there for life, but you are stuck there for 90 days. And just to see what happens. And like anything, you cannot just stick your book somewhere and expect something to happen. You have to do a lot of promotions. You have to do a lot of sales and marketing and pushing. And so I put Coffee Stains in there in last fall, late last fall. And that is how it got up to number two on the top 100 in the contemporary new adult. And that’s fun to see. But quite frankly, it helps sales for a couple of weeks. And then, of course, everyone moves on, basically, because we’ve got busy lives and anybody who wanted the book gets it. And the other problem with it is you see a book when you have KU, you take it, you put it into your TBR pile. And so just like our TBR of physical books keeps piling up, your TBR of Kindle books can fill up. So just because somebody downloads your book doesn’t mean that they’re going to read it right away. And then you don’t get paid until they read it. So just because somebody takes your book with KU doesn’t mean that you’re getting paid. You actually get paid per page read. And what’s great about that is that you can get a lot of data, especially if you have a series and you can see what your read through rate is from book one to two, two to three, and so on. And even for your book, do people finish the book or do they not finish the book? But it’s not great for initial sales. So you might get 100 people that download the book and put it into their KU, TBR, and you won’t see sales until they get to reading it. And let’s just raise our hands if you have a book in your kindle that you haven’t yet read. So I don’t have KU, so I buy it so they have been paid, but I haven’t read it. So there’s like 10 of them on there. Kobo is going to do the same subscription. Mine are in the Kobo subscription because you don’t have to be exclusive. And I think why not? Why not have them there? Same thing, Kobo requires some marketing. The great thing about Kobo is that they do have promotions on the site that deal specifically with Kobo products and get your book specifically out in front of an audience that you might not be able to reach on your own. So Canada, New Zealand, UK, Australia, India, Europe. So if you’re going to go wide, it’s worth playing around in Kobo. They have excellent customer service. It’s really worth checking them out. If you guys have any questions and I will try my best to answer them, you can get me over on Twitter @pencilslipstick, and you can get me on Instagram @PencilsandLipstick, all spelled out, or @KatCaldwell.author. I will try to answer your questions. I am trying to get Kobo to come on the show and to tell us all about it. So hopefully they will be able to answer all the questions when they come on the show and try to convince you all to go wide. I think you should go wide, but that’s just me.

So that’s exciting news. I think that it’s good for Amazon to have competition. I know we all have mixed feelings about Amazon and their takeover of America and possibly the world. I think it’s good for companies to have competition. I think it’s good for them to have competition on the subscription service. So I don’t think that Amazon will change their exclusivity. I think it’s working for a lot of people, and I don’t think books are their priority. It’s working, why fix something that ain’t broke? So that’s just a decision you’re going to have to make if you’re going to stay exclusive to Amazon. But I will repeat myself, it does not matter as much whether you go wide or you go specifically KU. Your book isn’t going to sell if you don’t push it. So it is easier to publish your book these days. It’s easier to get it out there. I think KU has 3 million titles on it. So you have a lot of competition. We have a lot of competition. It is getting harder and harder to differentiate yourself in the crowd and to be seen and to be not only bought but be read. So there’s a couple of different steps along the way in getting your book consumed by the reader. And so whether you decide to go wide or direct sales or KU or a mix, you are going to have to find a way to market. I can’t stress enough that you are a salesperson as an author, you are a small business, and it is worth looking into learning how to sell and learning how to run a small business. That is what I have been doing for about nine months. It’s slow going. And I feel like we’re doing that from the beginning too, but it’s just a lot. And so with all of our busy lives, I feel like we have to take it in stages. I am in my fifth decade of life. So I’m not in college and I don’t just have the time to go and take a business class. And anyway, it’s an online small business and all the things are different.

So you need to learn how to sell. You need to learn how to promote your book, how to talk about your book. And that is why I want to talk to you guys about your author newsletter. So your author newsletter is going to help teach you to do these things, to talk about your book, to talk about your small business, your brand, which is usually you or your pen name, unless you’re J.K. Rowling’s and it’s Harry Potter or Potter’s World or whatever that is. And yeah, you can make a brand around the series if you want to make maybe several brands, or you think that series will really be the Harry Potter in your world, take off and be worth spending a lot of time on. It’s a lot of decisions to make before you even know. That’s what I find so hard about it. So for most authors, their brand is their pen name or their author name. It’s amazing to me how many people still struggle with author newsletter, how many people resist making an author newsletter. That’s one thing of all the things that I didn’t get right, that’s one thing I got right. And I still didn’t do it completely right from the beginning. But an author newsletter has been a thing since 2014, 2013. I mean, ever since I really started looking into becoming an author, seriously, with babies in my arms and on my legs, hugging my legs. I just have this visual of me standing with a newborn baby and a toddler on one leg and another toddler on another leg. That’s why I always say that. So in author newsletters, I know people resist it. And I think the reason that you resist it is the fear, like a couple of different fears, but it’s based on fears. Your first fear is no one’s on your list. How do you even start? What is zero at first? And this is the biggest question I get or the number one question over and over and over again is how do I start? And the mechanics of starting is not hard. I can tell you, go to MailerLite, go to Mailchimp, go to Flodesk, go to ConvertKit, go anywhere and start a mailing list. But really what people are asking is how do they get people on their list? So we are going to tackle that question. And I think the next question that is based in fear is, what do I talk about in my author newsletter? And so those are the things that trip us up and keep us from doing it and keep us from being consistent. So we are going to talk about that right now after this little commercial.

Okay, so we are going to talk about author newsletters now that I have talked your ear off about becoming a book coach. I am going to go into marketing coach mode, and we are going to talk about author newsletters. Why, first of all, do you need an author newsletter? So author newsletter is the same as all those other newsletters that you sign up for at your favorite shops. You know how when you get on to, I don’t know, whatever shop online, toms.com. And the pop up says, give us your email address and we’ll give you 15% off. And what do you do? You give them your email address because you want that 15% off. And then what do they do? They send you sales and announcements and newsletters and all these things. That is a newsletter, and that is what you want as an author. You want access to your clients, direct access. Now, why do stores do this? Because they have your full attention. Yes, they’re going to run ads. Yes, they’re going to do other things. But in your email box, your inbox, that is worth money. You know how we talk about how these corporations sell our information, Facebook sells our information? They are selling your email address because it’s worth money. Your attention is worth money. So as an author, you are competing with Barnes & noble, and Amazon, and Bookshop, and Kobo, and all the other authors. Plus you’re competing with the time suckers, the social media, and the Netflix, and the Hulu, and all that, because what you’re selling is entertainment as well. You’re trying to grab the reader by their face and say, look at me. Look at this book I wrote just for you. Please read it. So you want it because you own the right to email them. Now, if they unsubscribed, you no longer own that right. But it is the one thing that you can control to get in front of them. If you put something on social media, you cross your fingers that the right people saw it because you have no control over who sees it. If you run ads, you have a little bit more control. But quite frankly, that is a whole different thing. Running ads, a lot of times people have to see an ad two, three, four, five, six, seven times before they will actually buy. And we’ve all been there. We’ve clicked on ads, we’ve clicked on them again, we’ve clicked on them again, and then we’ve decided, no, I’m not going to buy.

So you are going to own this little road that leads to your readers or potential readers. And that is called your author newsletter. Now, the other reason that you should do it is because in the States, at least, they’re talking about banning TikTok. I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to ban Facebook, or if Facebook tries to own everything, or the worst could happen and you could spend all your time building up your Facebook, or your TikTok, or your Instagram, or your LinkedIn, or your Nostr, or whatever, all these weird things that are coming up. They all have weird names. And then they take you off for no reason. So Russell Knowlty, who’s never not followed the rules on Facebook, as far as I can tell, and has been there, he’s probably my age about and has been on Facebook since almost the conception of Facebook, and they just deleted him. And I would assume it was a mistake, but it’s gone. It’s not just that he’s logged out, it’s gone. All of his posts are gone. All of his work is gone. All of the page is completely gone. So whether that is a human error, whether it is something that their terms and conditions change and all of a sudden they don’t like your kind of book or whatever, because it’s so subjective, you do not have control over what Facebook decides to do or TikTok or whoever. It is a private company. They can kick off whoever they want. You also, on Facebook, even if you have a group and it’s pretty active, pretty active means that 30 % of the people who are in that group are active. So whenever in business, and this is the weirdest thing when you start learning about business, you’re good if 30 to 40% of people in your group that like you are active and actively participating with your brand. That’s something to come to terms with, right? So your author newsletter is a way for you to get in front of the reader, present yourself, present your books, and see if they will become a fan and away from the maddening crowd, basically. So if they click on your email and they’re reading your email, you have their full attention for all of two and a half minutes according to studies. So I will always push an author newsletter. And I do think that if you’re resisting an author newsletter right now, it’s based in fear and a couple of different fears that are completely founded. Yes, there are fears to this. And it is like anything, you have to get started.

So before we get into those fears, the next question people ask me that’s like a non… I think it’s like keeping them from starting, but they say, when should you send out your newsletter? And that just really doesn’t matter. I think it’s one of those questions we ask because we think it matters, and yet I think it’s just a procrastination tool. I send out my reader newsletter, so my author newsletter, every two weeks. I have done it every month and I would forget. So I moved it to every two weeks. I did it every week for a while and then I pulled my subscribers and they said every two weeks would be fine. So I moved to every two weeks. It doesn’t matter. What matters is consistency. So whatever you can do. So go ahead and try every month and giving yourself space to have a typical reader newsletter. Okay, I’m going to say reader newsletter, author newsletter is interchangeable here. So you’re connecting with your readers. Having that newsletter that comes on the day that you claim that it’s going to come. So mine comes every other Thursday. And then leaving yourself some room to do promotions whenever you want to do promotions. So you don’t only email them on every other Thursday. That’s when my typical one comes out. So I will tell them what I am writing. I will tell them if maybe I got a short story published and where they can go read it, if they want to sign up to be an alpha reader, if they want to sign up to be on your arc team, who I am promoting that week, whatever promotion I am doing. So that is the typical. And then if I have something special going on, I have left myself room to send out extra emails without being overwhelming to my readers. So where do I start? That is the number one fear based question that people always ask. And the truth is, you start wherever you can. If you are not published yet or you’ve just published one book, you go out and you physically ask your friends and family and people on Facebook and people on whatever groups you are in, would you like to join my newsletter and hear about what I’m writing? Now, are these people going to become your biggest fans? Maybe, but probably not. But it at least gives you somebody to talk to, and it gives you some numbers on your list. So also, when you’re putting it out, if you’re very active on Facebook, let’s say, or very active on LinkedIn, and this goes for you, nonfiction writers as well, you need an author newsletter. Let’s say you’ve curated a certain group there. You don’t just put it out once, you put it out twice, three times a week. This is what you’re going to get on my newsletter. You need to decide what you’re going to… let’s say you’re a fantasy YA author. You need to decide what you are going to give them. Are you going to talk about the greatest fantasy books that you’ve ever read? Are you going to talk about how you’ve built the world? Are you going to talk about what you’ve based your book on? Are you going to review other fantasy books? Are you going to I don’t know, what are you going to do? So that’s really up to you. I do have some ideas for you, and we’ll talk about that later. But what you want to do is ask, ask, ask, ask, ask. So ask your friends, ask your family, put it out on Facebook, constantly be putting it out there. And yes, you will start out with 5, 10, 12, 25 people. If you are in different writing groups, you can suggest that you exchange signups. I’ll sign up for your author newsletter if you sign up for mine, because in the beginning, what you just need is a handful of people on your list. Where do you go from there? You need a lead magnet. So it is that 15% off on Tom’s shoes. As an author, it’s probably not going to be 15% off, right? So here are the most typical lead magnet. So the freebie that entices somebody to come onto your newsletter. And this specifically will help you find people who might become your fans, because it’s going to be a short story, a novella, a character write up. Let’s say some people do some really fun things with their characters. They make AI photos of them, or a Pinterest board for them. They write up their backstory and make this fun little worksheet that you can go in and see the characters. So if you know how to do that, go ahead and do that. That’s awesome. People will get to know your characters and then they’ll say, okay, I want to read this book. It can be also the first five chapters, first three chapters of your book, so that it entices them with a link to go buy the full thing. You have to be very careful if you’re on KU. Yeah, you just have to be careful if you’re on KU, I’ll leave it there. So you need something that tells the reader about you as a writer and about your writing to entice them over. So I think the “easiest” thing is, and I say easy with quotes, to write up a short story or a novella, like a prequels to your book or your series. I think that’s the easiest. A lot of people give away a full book. Okay, we’ll talk about that in a little bit, or your first five chapters.

So why are you going to do this? This will help people decide if they want to be on your author newsletter because if they are not a fantasy reader, they are not going to click and get that book. Or maybe they will think, oh, I’m going to read this to see if it’s good for my child, if you’re a YA writer, or I’m going to try this new genre. I’m a wide reader, so I try lots of different genres. So this will weed through the crowd. Now, the best way to do this is to have a novella, if possible, or a short story, which you could, if it’s long enough, 12, 15, 20 pages, you could call it a novella. And then you’re going to start finding other writers who are within the realm-ish of your writing. So again, if you’re a contemporary sweet romance writer, find other contemporary sweet romance writers. And I think the best way to do that is to… if you write medical romance and they write small town romance, see if their readers will hop on over to your list as well. Now, if you’re small town romance, maybe hooking up with another small town romance writer will work as well. You’re just going to have to figure that out. So this does take asking. So I was talking to a young writer the other day, and she said, Well, how do you find those writers? And I said, It just takes asking. You go into Facebook writing groups, LinkedIn writing groups. You find people and follow them on Instagram and you just ask them, do you have an author newsletter? Would you ever want to cross promote each other’s books? Now, you can either cross promote the book, but the smartest thing would be to cross promote your lead magnet. So then the readers from their author newsletter will click on your lead magnet, they will sign up for your author newsletter, they will get their free lead magnet, and you might be making a friend for life or fan for life. The way that you get your lead magnet to people is you can either host all of your media files on your website, which can start getting pretty heavy, or you can become part of BookFunnel.com. Yes, things cost money. BookFunnel does cost money. I believe it’s $120 a year. I think it starts at $70 a year. I should have figured that out. But BookFunnel.com is the way that most people then deliver their files to the reader. It’s not impossible to do it hosted on your own website. I have done it before, especially for smaller files where it just has its own landing page on my website and people can download it. But if you want to know more about BookFunnel, go over to BookFunnel.com. Again, you can ask me questions if you want.

So where do you start? You start with the people around you. You start with people that you know. You start asking on social media and you start talking about your author newsletter. And you’re excited about your author newsletter because you are excited to tell people about your book. Again, I said you are now a salesperson, right? You are a small business owner. Follow some small businesses on Instagram or on TikTok, and they are talking about their business all the time because they’re excited. Aren’t you excited about your book? Yes, you’re excited about your book. We just got to learn to talk about it and to share our excitement. Which goes into the what will I even tell people on my author newsletter, which is the other question I get, which I think is based in fear and not unfounded. I get it. I have done many things on my author newsletter. I have done writing prompts, I’ve done poetry. Every other week for a while, I did send out, I found poetry to go with it. And then I would write my own little story. I’ve done flash fiction where I would put out a prompt, and then I would set the timer and try to write a little story from it, about 300 to 500 words every week, that got a lot. I have written letters between my characters for my readers just to give them something to read. But I think the easiest thing to do is to talk about your business, which is you as a writer and your books. So you can do fun things. You can write letters, you can do deleted scenes every once in a while. I wouldn’t promise it, though, like I did. And then I have to be like, whoa, this is way too much work. Yeah, we’re going to stop this now. What you talk about is what you’re learning as a writer. And these don’t have to be long. In fact, I recommend that you do not have an email in which you have to scroll down very much. It’s hard to do that. And I recommend this. And then somebody pointed it out to me the other day that sometimes they have to do two scroll ups with their fingers on my emails, which is not my goal. My goal is to maybe do one scroll up. So you’re going to give updates. You’re going to say what you’re learning. You’re going to say a character that you love. You’re going to tell them how you came up with the idea, what changed as you wrote it, where you came up with the scene, what is maybe based on real life. Maybe you have an ice cream shop in your story that everyone gathers at and that it’s based off of your grandmother’s stories when she was young. I don’t know. Who is based on somebody that you know? Is it true that authors kill off their ex-boyfriends in their books? I don’t know. If you scroll down roll through social media, I do this sometimes, and just see what people are talking about. And then I talk to my newsletter about it. I’ve never killed off anyone that I quote unquote based on somebody I know in a book. But I also don’t write those books. So did you base a character off of somebody that you know? Did you write about high school because you wanted to change your years in high school? It’s really about getting personal and yet be sure to keep those boundaries.

So I like telling people where I’m at in my writing. I like telling them what I’m reading, which is a great thing to do because I can’t feed them everything that they want to read. I’m not that fast of a writer, so I want to recommend other people. And number one, after you’re talking about your book and your writing, talk about other authors and other books. So cross promotion, collaboration, multiple author promotions, these are key. These are not only key to getting more people on your author newsletter. So as I said, you ask an author friend, will you cross promote my book or my lead magnet? And I’ll cross promote your lead magnet. So you’re getting readers over to your author newsletter. But you’re feeding the book world, right? And you’re helping lift up other authors. Now, where you can get this… It can become a lot to find these people on your own. So that is where BookFunnel, again, comes in and storyorigin.com. So these are where you can go and find large group author promotions going on. And those are either newsletter builders, which is usually promoting your lead magnet. And there are different rules to that. Sometimes it has to be a full book and a novella would count for a full book. Sometimes it can be a snippet of your book. And so I recommend wherever you can to just give out the first five chapters. That’s just me personally. And I’ve talked about that a couple of times of not giving out your full book. Sometimes you have to and sometimes it’s worth it. You can also do one-on-one author connections there. So if you don’t, if you’ve exhausted your list of authors that you know via internet or personally, you can go to storyorigin.com or bookfunnel.com and meet even more. And it’s a big list there and you can just click on them and ask to cross promote. And so no verbal words are needed, which is amazing for all of us, for all of us introverts. So I do think your next step after you create it is to get on BookFunnel or Story Origin, or both. And that is how you are going to be able to cross promote. And that is how you are going to be able to fill that newsletter. So if you get tired of talking about yourself, let’s say you do one every other week. One week you can give news and updates on your book and on your author brand. And then the next week you can do a promotion and just have, I just want to give you guys great books to be able to read and check out and help uplift other indie authors, which I think is great. Karma will always come back to you well. I want you to start your author newsletter. There’s a lot more that we could get into, but I hope that this actually got you thinking, especially if you’re resisting it. Yes, it’s scary to build your own business, and that is what you are doing as an author. But it is possible to do it. It’s possible to take small steps doing it. It is possible to grow your list as fast or as slow as you can keep up with and handle.

Now, I have a full one-hour, very detailed lecture about this that you can click the link below and you can get if you want. It is a little mini-course. It gives a lot of information on literally where you can go to literally start signing up with a newsletter software company. You cannot start it just on your Gmail. You have to go the legal route with MailerLite or Constant Contact or ConvertKit. There’s a ton of them out there. And so I go into that, I go into more detail on the author promotions. And with that, you also get author email ideas. So I have four pages of author email ideas, just what you can do. You can print it out and you can put it up on your board or near your desk, and that will keep you busy writing author newsletters for at least a year. I go into your welcome sequence and a little bit more on your lead magnet. So if that interests you, you can get that whole bundle just for nine dollars. It’s just a lot more information for you on your author newsletter. I hope that I’ve convinced you a little bit, at least, to start thinking about it. Without my author newsletter, I would not be able to have moved my books. And if you are a book coach, if you become a book coach, you are going to need another newsletter in which you write to authors. So every time I’m pushing a summit, or I am pushing a workshop, or whatever, everyone, all my signups come from my newsletter. I have never run ads for them yet. That will be a different step, and that’s fine. And I’m ready for that step when it comes. But your author newsletter, your business newsletter is going to bring you the people who are really, truly interested in you and help you understand your fans even more because you’re going to be able to talk to them directly, ask them questions directly. They can hit reply on your author newsletter and get you directly, it goes straight to your inbox. They can ask you questions or answer the question that you have asked. So you are going to get to know them better as well, which will only help your marketing skills. See how this goes? It’s just a constant cycle and it’s great. We get to know each other and they will tell you what they want to read and you will tell them what you want to write and hopefully it will convert. So if you guys have any questions, you can sign up for my author newsletter down below, my readers newsletter, if you want to see it in action. You want to see my welcome sequence in action, you can sign up for either my Reader’s Newsletter or my Writer’s Newsletter below. You can ask me questions on Instagram or Twitter. Those links are below as well. If you’re watching this on YouTube, you can ask in the comments. There’s so many places that you can do that. I hope I at least answered some questions and helped you decide to start your author newsletter today. Until next week, happy writing and happy reading. See you later.